Terrorist attacks in India

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Postby Lihonessa » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:27 am

bukkey wrote:also you got more replies in about 1 hour than my hunter post got in 3 days.


You're jealous at him for making a statement that everybody doesn't like? I didn't like Chartic's comment, but this is just insane.

Not to mention that your Hunter topic was a total effing troll thread you made up to increase your post count. Seriously, leave the forums, both you and Chartic.

I'm very sorry to hear this news, and I hope that everybody will be okay. :(
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Postby Bunnytots » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:59 am

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Postby kozom1234 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:31 am

India security chief resigns in wake of attacks


Nov 30, 2008 11:03 AM
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

MUMBAI–With corpses still being pulled from a once-besieged hotel, India's top security official resigned Sunday as the government struggled under growing accusations of security failures following terror attacks that killed 174 people.
Home Minister Shivraj Patil, who has become highly unpopular during a long series of terror attacks across India, submitted his resignation to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who accepted it, according to the president's office.
The Cabinet reshuffle comes as a chorus of criticism about the government's handling of the Mumbai attacks grows louder.
"Our Politicians Fiddle as Innocents Die," read a headline Sunday in the Times of India newspaper.
A day after the siege ended, authorities were still removing victims bodies from the ritzy Taj Mahal hotel, where three suspected Muslim militants made a last stand before Indian commandos killed them in a blaze of gunfire and explosions.
On Sunday, the waterfront landmark, popular among foreign tourists and Indian high society, was surrounded by metal barricades, its shattered windows boarded over. At the iconic Gateway of India basalt arch nearby, a shrine of candles, flowers and messages commemorated victims.
"We have been to two funerals already," Mumbai resident Karin Dutta said as she placed a small bouquet of white flowers for several friends killed in the hotel. "We're going to another one now.''
The rampage was carried out by gunmen at 10 sites across Mumbai starting Wednesday night. At least 239 were wounded.
One site, the Cafe Leopold, a famous tourist restaurant and the scene of one of the first attacks, opened Sunday for the first time since the mayhem – but police asked it to close just minutes later because they said the eatery needed permission first.
Mirrors, doors and paneling were riddled with bullet holes from the assault that killed seven people there.
"I want them (the attackers) to feel we have won, they have lost," restaurant manager Farzad Jehani said of the symbolic opening. "We're back in action.''
The death toll was revised down Sunday from 195 after authorities said some bodies were counted twice, but they said it could rise again as areas of the Taj Mahal were still being searched. Among the dead were 18 foreigners, including six Americans. Nine gunmen were killed.
The dead also included Germans, Canadians, Israelis and nationals from Britain, Italy, Japan, China, Thailand, Australia and Singapore.
A previously unknown Muslim group called Deccan Mujahideen – a name suggesting origins inside India – has claimed responsibility for the attacks that killed more than 170 people. But Indian officials said the sole surviving gunman, now in custody, was from Pakistan and voiced suspicions of their neighbour.
Pakistan denied it was involved and demanded evidence.
Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S., Husain Haqqani, reiterated in an interview broadcast on ABC on Sunday that Pakistan stands ready to support India.
"Pakistan is a victim of terrorism. India is a victim of terrorism. The victims need to get together. Forget about our bitter history," he said.
But the assaults have raised fears among U.S. officials about a possible surge in violence between Pakistan and India. The nuclear-armed rivals have fought three wars against each other, two over the disputed region of Kashmir.
Prime Minister Singh called a rare meeting of leaders from the country's main political parties to discuss the situation Sunday.
"In the face of this national threat and in the aftermath of this national tragedy, all of us from different political parties must rise above narrow political considerations and stand united,'' he said.
He added that authorities were strengthening maritime and air security and looking to create a new federal investigative agency. The attackers are believed to have landed in Mumbai by boat.
As officials pointed the finger at "elements in Pakistan,'' public ire over the government's actions widened.
"People are worried, but the key difference is anger," said Rajesh Jain, chief executive officer at a brokerage firm, Pranav Securities. "Does the government have the will, the ability to tackle the dangers we face?''
But J.K. Dutt, director general of India's elite commandos, brushed off criticism that his unit, which had to fly from New Delhi to Mumbai, was slow to respond to the attacks.
"There was no delay," he told reporters Sunday.
But Patil, the former home minister, succumbed to the mounting criticism of the government's inability to prevent repeated terrorist attacks. To replace him, Singh tapped Finance Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram, a Harvard-educated lawyer who has been one of the most prominent faces in the administration.
Chidambaram, 63, served as Minister of Internal Security in the 1980s under slain Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi.
Authorities say the gunmen may have arrived in Mumbai on a trawler that was found abandoned and drifting off the coast with a bound corpse aboard a day after the attacks started.
The government suspects they then transferred to a dinghy and docked at a fishermen's colony near the two hotels and Jewish center targeted in the assaults.
Local fishermen were suspicious of the group of young men, police inspector Dattatray Rajbhog said.
"The fishermen shouted at them and asked who they were and where they had come from. But they abused them and fled," he said.
Suspicions in Indian media quickly settled on the militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, long seen as a creation of the Pakistani intelligence service to help wage its clandestine war against India in disputed Kashmir.
A U.S. counterterrorism official said some "signatures of the attack" were consistent with Lashkar and Jaish-e-Mohammed, another group that has operated in Kashmir. Both are reported to be linked to al-Qaida.
President George W. Bush pledged full U.S. support for the investigation, saying the killers "will not have the final word.'' FBI agents were sent to India to help with the probe.
It was the country's deadliest terrorist act since 1993 serial bombings in Mumbai killed 257 people.



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Postby Thatguy » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:10 pm

Since when are trolls supposed to be funny?

Trolling is just a way to get attention, positive or negative, and I'd say Chartic got what he wanted.
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Postby The Great JT » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:02 pm

kozom1234 wrote:Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S., Husain Haqqani, reiterated in an interview broadcast on ABC on Sunday that Pakistan stands ready to support India.
"Pakistan is a victim of terrorism. India is a victim of terrorism. The victims need to get together. Forget about our bitter history," he said.

I like this guy. At least he's seeing what's going on and saying "yes, there's been some fighting between us, but now's the time to get over this and get the bastards who did it."
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Postby Thatguy » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:45 pm

The Great JT wrote:
kozom1234 wrote:Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S., Husain Haqqani, reiterated in an interview broadcast on ABC on Sunday that Pakistan stands ready to support India.
"Pakistan is a victim of terrorism. India is a victim of terrorism. The victims need to get together. Forget about our bitter history," he said.

I like this guy. At least he's seeing what's going on and saying "yes, there's been some fighting between us, but now's the time to get over this and get the bastards who did it."



Yep, but you know how's fanaticism and zealotry.


People will just go "BUT THEY ARE INFIDELS WE MUST PURGE THIS WORLD FROM THOSE EVIL SINNERS" and they'll start killing each other again, no matter what that ambassador said.
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Postby Renkonel » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:02 am

Such a tragety, why would someone do this, Is there anyway at all that we can stop this senseless killing, i mean what is wrong with people. such monsters :(
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Postby Bunnytots » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:52 pm

agreed.
any of you remember that one bombing in the UK a few years ago?
my best friend was in the subway when that happened.
I was glad when he was ok.
(cant remember wat was bombed. if i remember right it was the subway.)
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Postby Thatguy » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:32 pm

Renkonel wrote:Such a tragety, why would someone do this, Is there anyway at all that we can stop this senseless killing, i mean what is wrong with people. such monsters :(



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Postby kozom1234 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:02 pm

Bunnytots wrote:agreed.
any of you remember that one bombing in the UK a few years ago?
my best friend was in the subway when that happened.
I was glad when he was ok.
(cant remember wat was bombed. if i remember right it was the subway.)


WOW i'm glad he's ok.
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Postby Renkonel » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:47 am

Thatguy wrote:
Renkonel wrote:Such a tragety, why would someone do this, Is there anyway at all that we can stop this senseless killing, i mean what is wrong with people. such monsters :(



"But after we kill all these infidels, we will all worship the right God and the Earth will be a much better place!"


Hate to say it, but i think this is the kind of thing thats here to stay, there will always be terrorist and murders who roam the streets, we have to stay on our toes and UP our sercurity. We have to be ready and retaliate on the spot if we want to save people from the acts of terrorism.
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Postby Klavs » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:22 pm

Renkonel wrote:
Thatguy wrote:
Renkonel wrote:Such a tragety, why would someone do this, Is there anyway at all that we can stop this senseless killing, i mean what is wrong with people. such monsters :(



"But after we kill all these infidels, we will all worship the right God and the Earth will be a much better place!"


Hate to say it, but i think this is the kind of thing thats here to stay, there will always be terrorist and murders who roam the streets, we have to stay on our toes and UP our sercurity. We have to be ready and retaliate on the spot if we want to save people from the acts of terrorism.


What do you want a military state where martial law is declared and random people are strip searched for bombs? The whole point is to preserve the way of life that free people enjoy, any measures like that and the terrorists have won.
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Postby Renkonel » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:57 am

I was talking about retaliation not a being pre-emptive, talking about being ready not being impulsive. There is no sure-fire way to predict when an attack is gonna come. Don't get me wrong i have no idea how we are gonna be ready i was kinda hoping other people would have an idea.
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