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Postby Keydar » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:45 pm

I'm thinking about starting to offer commissions, but am unsure about pricing, and what kind of demand there is, if any. I know a lot of you are fellow artists with some experience in this department. What do you guys think?

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Postby Raptorbane » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:21 pm

WHEEEEELL, from my experience (depending on your target demographic) you'll probably want to start "modest" so people can commission you and snag some of your first pieces. Then, as demand rises, you can up your price. If you're just doing this as a side job it's totes okay to be making just under or just at minimum wage, so try to time yourself drawing a few things to get a rough estimate of how long it takes you to work. It takes me 4-5 hours to do a single character, and my base price for a color piece right now is $60, so that I at least make minimum wage (or a bit over).

When you start, it's best to write a pretty little thing sort of like this for people to read to get an idea of your prices, what you won't draw, and some examples of work you've done. The most important thing to remember when doing commissions is that if you don't market yourself, you probably won't get any. Considering hundreds (potentially thousands? I dunno) of people see your comic each day, advertising somewhere on the front page of DLC that you take commissions would probably interest those few older readers you have who appreciate your art and would enjoy having a personalized piece from you.

I assume you already have a PayPal and whatnot all set up, so having a link to email that about commissions somewhere on the site would probably be a good idea as well. Then you could just check back to it regularly, say once or twice a day (or if you're like me just obsessively check it every time you have that "I HAVE MAIL" impulse).

Really though the only way you can really figure out what works is through trial and error; my first commission prices were like $20 for a full color character with a pretty background, whereas now I'm doing background-free single characters for upwards of $65. Naturally, as you improve you'll be able to get away with charging more. It's like buying a crafted item with your own mats; you still pay the person a bit to make it not just because they're pressing a button, but because they worked that skill up to the maximum level on their own time.

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Postby Gabtraf » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:42 am

All depends on your preference on commissions. Raptor does a lot of them so she'll help you out with most of it. Then there is the restrictions and etc. of what you will and will not draw. The pricing of line art to colored w/ background, is up to you to make it seem reasonable.

For me I don't really do commissions because I assume I'm not ready to take them on yet and still need to practice up on poses and etc. That and I am not a modest person like Raptor so it is way tougher for me to enter that field.
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Postby Lanthroviel » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:45 am

Raptorbane wrote:STUFF!

But, YOU do furry!
You know well that furries are the only ones who shows up the money for some reason...
Anyway, not into this at all, but, do you have a place to show your art?
You know, like DeviantArt, or even [size=0]heaven forbid[/size] FA?
Cause if there's only this website, I don't think you'll find much public here except for us devious fan who if we could would've aready paid for stuff in your store :P.
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Postby Raptorbane » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:54 am

Lanthroviel wrote:
Raptorbane wrote:STUFF!

But, YOU do furry!
You know well that furries are the only ones who shows up the money for some reason...


Which is exactly -why- I do furry :B I don't care much for a lot of the stuff I get roped into drawing (mostly all that transformation stuff :T) but I draw it 'cause it's good money :3 Hell, I'm not even a furry myself.

Lanthroviel wrote:Anyway, not into this at all, but, do you have a place to show your art?
You know, like DeviantArt, or even [size=0]heaven forbid[/size] FA?
Cause if there's only this website, I don't think you'll find much public here except for us devious fan who if we could would've aready paid for stuff in your store :P.


Yeah, a dA would be good for starting off, but in the long run you might wind up realizing that dA is consisting of pretty much 99.9% 13-16 year old girls with no money to be spending on art of their strange chibi cat-eared sailor moon rip off character. The real money for "commission work" is in furry porn (DO NOT WANT), just furry art in general, or getting companies to hire you on as their pay-per-picture graphics designer.

That said, there are still a lot of people on dA who -do- have money to spend on art of their character, you just have to be recognized. I MIGHT GO SO FAR AS TO SAY "POPULAR".

Things working for you, Keydar: Ability to quickly gain a following based off your comic, never done commissions before, has followed a solid update schedule for quite some time now.

Things against you: The market.

I'd say you should open a dA account and start plugging that you have it here and there, maybe upload a few of the DLC that you are particularly fond of. People can fav them and they'll front page a few times and bam, instant dA popularity. After a few weeks of that you should have a good amount watchers, then start posting journals asking if people are down for commissions.

Doop another long post, I hope it was at least helpful.
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Postby Keydar » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:22 am

Thanks for the advice.

I'm not going to be actively seeking commissions. This idea is more of just a way to make it easier for those few fans that want some kind of personalized image from me.

Over the years I have received a few emails asking about commissions, and I just thought it would be a good idea to put it down in writing somewhere on my site. I have always shied away from taking said commissions because of the fact that I have no idea what I should be charging. Plus the amount of correspondence required to set up terms makes it far more difficult to fit into my schedule.

Plus it would force me to practice more ;)
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Postby Bright_eyes » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:22 pm

Damn it, Keydar. You make it hard to chose food over art -.-
Kidding, kidding. I want a picture D:
Good luck, maybe I will buy something. Maybe.
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Postby Raptorbane » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:49 pm

Bright_eyes wrote:Damn it, Keydar. You make it hard to chose food over art -.-


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Postby Bright_eyes » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:45 pm

Raptorbane wrote:
Bright_eyes wrote:Damn it, Keydar. You make it hard to chose food over art -.-


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Postby Agatha » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:46 am

You can try to make commissions . I am afraid , however that only things that sell those days are hentai and furry (Furry hentai is gold :D) . In any case if you want to do so you should strengthen your position in deviantart and sites like it . I wish you luck whatever you decide .

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Postby Raptorbane » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:10 pm

Agatha wrote:You can try to make commissions . I am afraid , however that only things that sell those days are hentai and furry (Furry hentai is gold :D) . In any case if you want to do so you should strengthen your position in deviantart and sites like it . I wish you luck whatever you decide .[/b][/i]


That's not necessarily true, I know tons of artists who sell human-related art on a regular basis. Really it's just being good enough (and well-known) to compete while still having a price people can afford. If nobody knows who you are, nobody will buy your art. If your price is too high, nobody will buy your art. If you suck at drawing, nobody will buy your art. If there is someone who is better than you in at least 2/3 of any of those areas, people are more likely to go there unless your particular style appeals to them heavily.

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Re: Commissions

Postby christinawhite099 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:57 pm

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